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Klaproth's memoirs on Asia

Collected essays of 1824 to 1828 in which Klaproth translates Chinese, Manchu and Persian texts on Siberia, Mongolia and the Tatars and argues about what the names mean.

Full title Memoirs relating to Asia, containing historical, geographical and philological researches on the peoples of the East (3 vols, 1824-1828)

Julius Klaproth

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Julius Klaproth (1783-1835) gathered his shorter studies into three volumes of Memoires relatifs a l'Asie (Paris, 1824-1828). They include his own French translations from Chinese and Manchu (a Qing description of Russia, Chinese notices of Siberian peoples, a Manchu account of the Long White Mountain), a paper on Siberian antiquities read to the Asiatic Society in 1822, reviews of other scholars, and a short essay 'Sur les Tatars' on who the real Tatars were. A little comes from his own trip to the Russian-Chinese frontier in 1805-1806. The corpus holds several scans of volume 1 (cited here from the DLI copy) and one of volume 2.

How they knew
Part eyewitness
Who “Tartar” means here
For Klaproth the 'true Tatars' are the Mongols; the Turkic peoples of Kazan, Astrakhan and Crimea only inherited the name from their Mongol rulers. Older sources he translates use 'Tartare' more loosely, for Siberian tribes such as the Kistym Tatars.
Why read it
It lets a learner watch a scholar of the 1820s sort out the name Tatar from Chinese and Persian sources, and see how he explained Siberian graves, mines and inscribed stones without any lost empire.
Watch out
Most of the material is translated or compiled, and Klaproth was quarrelsome and sure of himself; some of his identifications (for example that Mongol and Tatar are simply the same people) are now thought too simple. IA metadata mislabels the volume numbers of the Google scans.

What it says: 10 passages

CitiesYenisei basin, Siberiacompiled 1660s from older Persian sources

Alak-tsin, a town where every pot is silver

Editorial contextIn his chapter on the Tatar people, the Khivan khan and historian Abu'l-Ghazi describes a great town and many villages on a 'Bitter Sea' fed by the Uighur river (Klaproth identifies it as the Yenisei). The people shift their dwellings often, own only dapple-grey horses, mine silver nearby and cook in silver pots. Klaproth gives his own new translation because the old French version garbled the passage.

On the shores of this sea stands a great town and many villages. The inhabitants often change their dwellings; they own numerous herds and a considerable number of horses. … All are dapple-grey … The name of the town is Alak-tsin; near it there are silver mines. Among this people all the cooking pots and bowls are of silver.

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Sur les bords de cette mer est située une grande ville et beaucoup de villages. Les habitans changent souvent de demeure; ils possèdent de nombreux troupeaux, et une quantité considérable de chevaux. … Tous sont pommelés … Le nom de la ville est Alak-tsin; dans son voisinage il y a des mines d'argent. Chez ce peuple toutes les marmites et les jattes sont d'argent.

Abu'l-Ghazi Bahadur Khan (Genealogy of the Turks, 1660s), translated by Julius Klaproth

About a tribe of the 'Tatar people' in Abu'l-Ghazi's history

Keep in mind

Abu'l-Ghazi wrote four centuries after the events from Rashid al-Din and oral tradition; the silver pots are hearsay, and Klaproth is unsure where the 'Bitter Sea' was.

CitiesKazanearly 18th century

A Qing view of Russia: the White Khan took Kazan and Tobolsk

Editorial contextKlaproth translates the entry on Russia from the official Manchu imperial geography of China. It calls the Tsar the 'Tsagan khan' (White Khan, a Mongol title), places his residence at Moscow, and says the Russians seized the lands of Kazan and Tobolsk about 160 years earlier. It shows how the fall of the Tatar khanates looked from Beijing.

The king of the Oros [Russians] is the Tsagan khan; he lives in a town called Moscow, not very far from the north-western sea. … Their khans have reigned for twenty-three generations, over a period of more than three hundred and fifty years. It is a hundred and sixty years since they seized the territories of Kazan and Tobolsk.

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Le roi des Oros est le Tsakhan khan; il réside dans une ville appelée Moskowa, qui n'est pas trop éloignée de la mer du nord-ouest. … Leurs khans ont régné pendant vingt-trois générations, durant une période de plus de trois cent cinquante ans. Il y a cent soixante ans qu'ils s'emparèrent des territoires de Kazan et de Tobolsk.

Official Qing (Manchu) geography of the empire, translated by Julius Klaproth

About Russians as seen by the Qing court; Kazan and Siberian khanates

Keep in mind

Tobolsk itself was a Russian foundation of 1587 beside the old Tatar capital Sibir; the Chinese text uses it as the name of the region.

BuildingsSouthern Siberia7th century (Tang period)

Log houses roofed with birch bark

Editorial contextKlaproth translates the Chinese encyclopedist Ma Duanlin on a northern people called the Piebald Horses. They built houses of logs laid one on another like the curb of a well, roofed them with birch bark, slept on hay, did not ride but drank mare's milk and fattened black-maned horses to eat. Klaproth notes that Ostyaks and Samoyeds still build this way and thinks the people were one of those tribes.

Their dwellings are made of trees laid one upon another, as the curbs of wells are made. The roof is covered with birch bark. Earth, wood, grass or straw serve them as carpets, and the place where they sleep is covered with hay. Others have no fixed dwelling.

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Leurs habitations sont faites avec des arbres posés les uns sur les autres, comme on fait les clôtures des puits. Le toit est couvert d'écorce de bouleau. La terre, le bois, l'herbe ou la paille leur servent de tapis, et l'endroit où ils dorment est couvert de foin. D'autres n'ont pas de demeure fixe.

Ma Duanlin (Chinese encyclopedist, c. 1300), translated by Julius Klaproth

About Boma, the 'Piebald Horse' people of southern Siberia

Keep in mind

The link Klaproth draws between these Piebald Horses and the later 'piebald horde' of Siberia is his own suggestion.

Who dug the old graves and mines of Siberia?

Editorial contextRussians called the old graves and ancient mine shafts found across Siberia 'Chudic', and some scholars built on the word a theory of a highly civilised Chud people who once worked the Altai mines. Klaproth answers that the adjective simply means 'foreign' or 'unknown', as vague as 'Scythian' or 'barbarian', and links the theory to Bailly's dreams of a civilised plateau of Tatary, which he says does not exist.

There have even been scholars who believed that part of Siberia had once been inhabited by Chuds, that this people was highly civilised, and that it worked the mines of the Altai and other mountains. All these hypotheses rest only on the adjective 'Chudic', which is used in Russia and Siberia to designate the ancient tombs and mine galleries

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Il y a même eu des savans qui croyaient qu'une partie de la Sibérie avait été autrefois habitée par des Tchoudes, que ce peuple était très-civilisé, qu'il exploitait les mines des montagnes d'Altai et autres. Toutes ces hypothèses ne sont fondées que sur l'adjectif tchoudique, dont on se sert en Russie et en Sibérie pour désigner les anciens tombeaux et les galeries de mines

Julius Klaproth

About the 'Chud', a vague name for unknown ancient peoples

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Stone statues left by Cumans and other Turks

Editorial contextPresenting drawings of inscribed stone columns near Abakan on the upper Yenisei, Klaproth notes that they closely resemble the stone statues scattered over the steppe north of the Caucasus. Those, he says, are the only monuments the Cumans and other Turkic peoples left behind there.

Moreover, these same statues closely resemble those seen fairly often on the vast plains north of the Caucasus, between the Black Sea and the Caspian, which are the only monuments that the Cumans and other Turkic peoples have left us of their stay in those regions.

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D'ailleurs, ces mêmes statues ressemblent beaucoup à celles qu'on voit assez fréquemment dans les vastes plaines situées au nord du Caucase, entre la mer Noire et la mer Caspienne, et qui sont les seuls monumens que les Comans et autres peuples turcs nous ont laissés de leur séjour dans ces contrées.

Julius Klaproth (paper read to the Asiatic Society, 2 December 1822)

About ancient Turkic peoples of South Siberia; Cumans of the steppe

Keep in mind

Klaproth worked from drawings made by others (Müller's artist Lursenius, Strahlenberg, Pallas), not from the stones themselves.

Nomads of Bishbalik in felt tents

Editorial contextKlaproth translates the Ming dynasty's geography on the land of Bishbalik, north of the Tian Shan. It says the people had no houses, lived in felt tents, kept cattle, sheep, camels and horses, farmed little, lived on meat and milk, and spoke a Turkic dialect called Uighur. The same book notes that under the Mongols there had been a town of Bishbalik with a viceroy and military farming colonies.

The inhabitants are nomads, have no houses, and live under felt tents. They occupy themselves almost entirely with keeping oxen, sheep, camels and horses. They have little agriculture and live on the meat and milk of their herds, which also supply the clothing they need. Their language is a dialect of Turkish

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Les habitans sont nomades, n'ont pas de maisons, et vivent sous des tentes de feutre. Ils s'occupent presqu'exclusivement de l'entretien des bœufs, des moutons, des chameaux et des chevaux. Ils n'ont que peu d'agriculture, et se nourrissent de la chair et du laitage de leurs troupeaux, qui leur fournissent l'habillement nécessaire. Leur langue est un dialecte du turc

Ming dynasty imperial geography, translated by Julius Klaproth

About nomads of Bishbalik (Moghulistan), Turkic speakers

Keep in mind

This scan is volume 2 (1826) despite its IA label; the OCR is rough.

'The Mongols are the true Tatars'

Editorial contextKlaproth opens his essay on the Tatars by calling it a common error to mix up Tatars and Turks. In the age of Mongol power, he says, only the Mongols bore the name; only in the last few centuries has it spread to all the eastern Turks and even to unrelated peoples. He asks scholars to drop the habit.

It is a generally accepted error to confuse the Tatars with the Turks … for in the time of the power of the Mongols, who are the true Tatars, that name was given to them alone. … I wish to try to clear up this confusion, and I invite all scholars to abolish an abuse that will always cause mistakes in ethnographic research.

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C'est une erreur généralement adoptée que de confondre les Tatars et les Turcs … car dans le tems de la puissance des Mongols, qui sont les véritables Tatars, ce nom ne fut donné qu'à eux. … Je veux tâcher d'éclaircir cette confusion, et j'invite tous les savans à abolir un abus qui occasionera toujours des méprises dans les recherches ethnographiques.

Julius Klaproth

About Mongols; Turkic peoples wrongly called Tatars

Keep in mind

Modern historians treat the medieval Tatars as a separate steppe confederation that Chinggis Khan destroyed, so Klaproth's simple equation of Mongols and Tatars goes too far.

The nameMongoliaearly 13th century

White, wild and black Tatars

Editorial contextKlaproth summarises a Song Chinese general's account of the northern tribes before Chinggis Khan's rise. The 'White Tatars' cut their cheeks and were probably Turks, the 'Wild Tatars' were slaves to them, and the 'Black Tatars' were the tribe into which Temujin, the future Chinggis Khan, was born.

White Tatars: these had nothing repulsive in their appearance; yet they made cuts in their cheeks (tattooed themselves, as the Tungus still do today). … The second tribe mentioned by Meng Hong is that of the Wild Tatars. These were stupid and served as slaves to the first. The third was that of the Black Tatars, among whom Chinggis Khan was born

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Tatars blancs, ceux-ci n'avaient rien de rebutant dans leur extérieur; cependant ils se faisaient des incisions dans les joues (se tatouaient, comme cela se pratique encore aujourd'hui parmi les Toungouses). … La seconde tribu mentionnée par Meng koung est celle des Tatars sauvages. Ceux-ci étaient stupides et servaient d'esclaves aux premiers. La troisième était celle des Tatars noirs, parmi laquelle Tchinghiz khan naquit

Julius Klaproth, summarising the Chinese account he credits to the general Meng Hong (d. 1246)

About Tatar tribes of the early 13th century (Mongols and Onggut)

Keep in mind

The Chinese report (the Mengda beilu of 1221) is now usually credited to the envoy Zhao Gong rather than Meng Hong; its labels reflect a Chinese outsider's view.

Strange talesTomsk16th century legend; reported 1721

The 'piebald horde' of Siberia

Editorial contextA 'piebald horde' was famous in 16th-century Siberia, and some doubted it existed because people thought its members were themselves spotted. Klaproth says the name only described their horses, and quotes the explorer Messerschmidt's diary: in 1721 the governor of Tomsk still claimed the Kistym Tatars had been piebald people who slowly 'degenerated' into white ones.

the piebald horde, … whose existence has often been doubted because people believed that the men who made it up were themselves piebald, whereas it concerned only their horses. … the voevoda of Tomsk asserted 'that the Kistym Tartars were called the piebald horde (pegaya or pestraya orda), that they had been piebald, but had gradually degenerated by becoming white.'

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la horde bigarrée, … dont on a souvent révoqué en doute l'existence, parce qu'on croyait que les hommes qui la composaient étaient eux-mêmes bigarrés, tandis qu'il ne s'agissait que de leurs chevaux. … le woiewode de Tomsk assura: « Qu'on appelait les Tartares de Kistym la horde bigarrée (piegaga ou piestra orda), qu'ils étaient bigarrés, mais qu'ils avaient successivement dégénéré, en devenant blancs.

Julius Klaproth, quoting D. G. Messerschmidt's manuscript journal (10 October 1721) reporting the voevoda of Tomsk

About Kistym Tatars (Siberian Tatars near Tomsk)

Keep in mind

Klaproth himself rejects the spotted-people story as an 'extravagant idea'; the voevoda was repeating local lore.

Siberian inscriptions that look European

Editorial contextKlaproth admits that the letters on the inscribed stones of South Siberia look more European than Asian, with shapes like Greek and Slavonic letters. He warns that this does not mean they were carved after the Russian conquest, since many stand on ancient gravestones. The script was still undeciphered in his day.

On examining the characters of these inscriptions, one cannot hide from oneself that they look more European than Asian. One easily recognises several Greek and Slavonic letters. Yet one cannot reasonably conclude from this that these inscriptions are later than the Russian conquest of Siberia

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En examinant les caractères de ces inscriptions, on ne peut pas se dissimuler qu'ils ont plutôt un air européen qu'asiatique. On y reconnaît facilement plusieurs lettres grecques et esclavonnes. Cependant on ne peut raisonnablement conclure pour cela que ces inscriptions soient postérieures à la conquête de la Sibérie par les Russes

Julius Klaproth

About ancient inhabitants of South Siberia

Keep in mind

These are the Yenisei runic inscriptions, later shown (1893) to be in an Old Turkic script; the likeness to Greek letters is only in shape.

The fine print

How we know

mixed Part firsthand observation, part drawn from other sources.

mixed: translations of Chinese and Manchu texts on Central Asia (e.g. on the Uighurs, Kirghiz, Khotan, the Amur), critiques of contemporaries, and some material from Klaproth's 1805-1806 Siberian frontier journey

Research notes
  • Volume numbering in IA metadata conflicts with imprint years (mmoiresrelatifs01klapgoog is dated 1826 and labelled vol. 2); verify against title pages before citing.
  • Further copies: archive.org/details/dli.pahar.0087

Why it matters

Contains Klaproth's French translations from Chinese sources on the Uighurs, on the geography of Central Asia and on the Amur, plus his critique of Remusat; a key channel by which Chinese descriptions of "Tartary" entered French scholarship.

Places named

Mongolia; Xinjiang; Siberia; Amur; Tibet; Caucasus; Korea

Peoples named

Turkic and Central Asian peoples and states
Mongols and the Mongol empire
Jurchen and Manchus (incl. the Qing as a Manchu dynasty)
Western Mongols (Oirat, Dzungar, Kalmyk)
Tibetans and Tibetan polities
Other East, South and Southeast Asian peoples

Uighurs; Kirghiz; Mongols; Manchu; Kalmyks; Tibetans; Koreans

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